| 18 Nov 2022 |
 Sylvia | LibreOffice cancelled all blockchain plans | 16:07:33 |
 Mathijs | thank goodness | 17:12:04 |
 srr24x7 | In reply to @SylvieLorxu:matrix.org
Blockchain is a scam and getting involved with those grifters in any way is a recipe for disaster I disagree, blockchain is an amazing technology. The issue is that pretty much the only realistic and reasonable usage for it is payment systems. It's just a huge buzz around it where everybody tries to make a quick buck on the back of the technology. | 22:54:56 |
| Mathijs | the thing is though: how does it help as a payment system? | 22:55:31 |
| srr24x7 | Also NFTs are actually trying to solve a real and existing issue. The problem there is just that the way they try to "solve it" is bad, garbage, and not a real workable way. | 22:55:39 |
| Mathijs | what real problems are nfts solving? | 22:55:53 |
| srr24x7 | How current copyright is useless and not working for the digital age. | 22:56:24 |
 enigma9o7 | what are nfts? | 22:56:29 |
| srr24x7 | Artists are working hard to make some art, then you just rightclick, save it and done. | 22:56:43 |
| Mathijs | In reply to @srr24x7:envs.net
How current copyright is useless and not working for the digital age. I don't see how nfts help there | 22:56:43 |
| Mathijs | they're just a massively wastefull way of doing a notary | 22:56:56 |
| Sylvia | NFTs don't solve the copyright issue because random people can make the initial claim instead of the author which is something that happens literally more often than the author making the initial claims | 22:57:00 |
| Mathijs | oh, and of course they're very bug-prone | 22:57:06 |
| Sylvia | And it's not even legally recognized so it's completely worthless in court | 22:57:10 |
| srr24x7 | In reply to @SylvieLorxu:matrix.org
NFTs don't solve the copyright issue because random people can make the initial claim instead of the author which is something that happens literally more often than the author making the initial claims As I said, NFTs aren't working. But the reason they were initially made was for a good case. | 22:57:30 |
| Sylvia | Yeah, sure. But even the person who designed NFTs has stepped away from it because it never got past the proof of concept phase and he wasn't happy with how it worked | 22:58:01 |
| srr24x7 | Yeah no surprise there lol | 22:58:16 |
| Sylvia | Didn't stop the scammy web3 crowd from keeping it alive to scam people though | 22:58:16 |
| srr24x7 | Well you got the right keeword there. "web3.0" that's where you got all the scamming | 22:58:41 |
| srr24x7 | I literally didn't see a single "web 3.0" thing so far that wasn't conceptually complete garbage and obviously just designed to make money. | 22:59:12 |
| srr24x7 | If you see "web 3.0" written anywhere to describe some "amazing" new project, then you can pretty much already assume by default that it's either straight up a scam or just a bad idea that should be trashed. | 23:00:28 |
| srr24x7 | * Well you got the right keyword there. "web3.0" that's where you got all the scamming | 23:00:54 |
| srr24x7 | In reply to @enigma9o7:matrix.org
what are nfts? NFTs are "Non-Fungible Token". Initially an idea to have ownership on a digital piece of art, so that artists actually could make money selling their art like you can by selling a painting in real life. It was supposed to be a way for artists to get payment for their work. | 23:07:06 |
| srr24x7 | Sadly the whole concept didn't really work out. | 23:07:26 |
| enigma9o7 | So it's basically a receipt for digital art? | 23:07:39 |
| enigma9o7 | Proving you paid for it or whatever? | 23:07:50 |
| srr24x7 | Yes | 23:07:54 |
| Sylvia | A receipt that can be made by anyone, including the person who didn't make the art | 23:08:03 |
| srr24x7 | These days it's just another gold mine for money making after people can't make enough money with crypto anymore. | 23:08:08 |
| Sylvia | So it's not proof of payment | 23:08:08 |
