| 18 Nov 2022 |
 enigma9o7 | maybe soon we can just use up all the oil and there'll be no plastic left, and we can go back to paper glass and metal. | 23:26:41 |
 srr24x7 | If you want to see something good on the plastic topic I can recommend this
https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=025iLjSi-d8 | 23:28:32 |
 Mathijs | yeah, I'm regularly listening to talks about plastic recycling for my $dayjob | 23:29:18 |
| Mathijs | those talks are academic talks at the university | 23:29:54 |
| Mathijs | we're so bad at separating different plastics we're doing scientific research on how to do it | 23:30:19 |
| Mathijs | to be fair to the scientist: they are making some really cool technology | 23:30:34 |
| Mathijs | and finding cool stuff along the way | 23:30:41 |
| Mathijs | so that's not a useless endeavor per se | 23:31:00 |
| Mathijs | but if academics are talking about how we could possibly separate different plastics | 23:31:17 |
| Mathijs | we're way off from any practical way to do this at scale | 23:31:29 |
| srr24x7 | In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
we're way off from any practical way to do this at scale Yeah pretty much this | 23:32:15 |
| srr24x7 | Currently we really have no way to clean up all the mess that we've already produced, yet we happily keep going at it making it worse from day to day | 23:32:51 |
| enigma9o7 | In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
but if academics are talking about how we could possibly separate different plastics hmmmm, at least in US, they put symbol on recycleable plastics with a number that refers to the type of plastic. So all you need is someone (or computer) to look at that number.... | 23:59:31 |
| Mathijs | yeah, that's really not how waste disposal in bulk works | 23:59:52 |
| 19 Nov 2022 |
| Mathijs | also: on a related note: that "recycle" symbol was chosen on purpose to suggest that it can be recycled by the plastic industry | 00:00:28 |
| Mathijs | knowing full well that that was (and still is decades later) completely infeasible | 00:00:57 |
| Mathijs | it was a very effective misinformation campaign | 00:01:12 |
| Mathijs | to be more explicit: | 00:01:47 |
| Mathijs | it's possible, but not easy, to recycle plastics of the same kind, if you have them pure enough | 00:02:11 |
| Mathijs | but the way waste disposal works | 00:02:20 |
| Mathijs | and also the way we use different kinds of plastics in a single product | 00:02:35 |
| Mathijs | you're really not going to be able to separate them just from a silly logo | 00:02:55 |
| enigma9o7 | In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
also: on a related note: that "recycle" symbol was chosen on purpose to suggest that it can be recycled by the plastic industry OMG! A reyccle symbol was chosen to suggest it can be recycled? The horror! | 00:03:35 |
| Mathijs | in my opinion that logo is made by people that were just being downright evil | 00:03:36 |
| enigma9o7 | In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
also: on a related note: that "recycle" symbol was chosen on purpose to suggest that it can be recycled by the plastic industry * OMG! A recycle symbol was chosen to suggest it can be recycled? The horror! | 00:03:49 |
| srr24x7 | https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=4o9-FkSHGWA | 00:04:07 |
| Mathijs | In reply to @enigma9o7:matrix.org
OMG! A recycle symbol was chosen to suggest it can be recycled? The horror! the thing is: it can't | 00:04:16 |
| Mathijs | we don't | 00:04:19 |
| Mathijs | they don't | 00:04:22 |
| Mathijs | they never even lifted a finger to actually try | 00:04:31 |
