| 18 Nov 2022 |
 enigma9o7 | We have to be at least 1 degree up.... | 23:18:14 |
 srr24x7 | There are realy bigger issues for global warming. | 23:18:18 |
| enigma9o7 | yeah like mining crypto | 23:18:28 |
| enigma9o7 | that is wasting a lot of energy destroying the planet | 23:18:34 |
| srr24x7 | The problem is not how much energy we use but how that energy is produced | 23:18:34 |
 Sylvia | https://lettuce.wtf/ but instead of a lettuce and twitter it is the earth's climate and NFTs | 23:18:35 |
| srr24x7 | We could use then times more energy and it wouldn't be an issue if all of it was produced renewably. | 23:19:14 |
| srr24x7 | The issue is that the majority of our power is still produced with coal, gas, oil and NPPs | 23:19:33 |
| Sylvia | No energy production is 100% renewable. Windmills and solar panels and all still need maintenance and that still uses finite resources | 23:19:54 |
| enigma9o7 | NPP isnt so much of a problem, is it? | 23:20:00 |
| Sylvia | So we do need to also reduce | 23:20:01 |
| enigma9o7 | Even gas isn't awful, if you mean natural gas. | 23:20:09 |
| enigma9o7 | It's the coal and oil that aren't so great for long term survival of the planet. | 23:20:22 |
| srr24x7 | In reply to @SylvieLorxu:matrix.org
No energy production is 100% renewable. Windmills and solar panels and all still need maintenance and that still uses finite resources It is, if you recycle what you already have and remember that our planet doesn't even need zero carbon to begin with, trees would die if there was no carbon for them to transform :D | 23:20:53 |
| srr24x7 | The issue is not that we're producing CO2, it's that we're producing WAY too much | 23:21:16 |
| Sylvia | We can't recycle perfectly. There's a reason why "recycle" is the last entry is "reduce, re-use, recycle" | 23:21:29 |
| enigma9o7 | CO2 isnt a big problem is it? | 23:21:34 |
| srr24x7 | Plus all the other waste too, not just CO2 | 23:21:34 |
| Sylvia | But even then, we use more energy than we can reproduce renewably | 23:21:44 |
| Sylvia | We need to reduce | 23:21:47 |
| enigma9o7 | My lawn eats CO2. | 23:21:48 |
| srr24x7 | In reply to @SylvieLorxu:matrix.org
We can't recycle perfectly. There's a reason why "recycle" is the last entry is "reduce, re-use, recycle" That's just a technological issue. | 23:21:57 |
| srr24x7 | And in fact we're recylcing way less today than most people think | 23:22:11 |
| enigma9o7 | recently mcdonalds in my area switched to plastic cups instead of the old waxpaper cups, i was like wtf! | 23:22:22 |
| srr24x7 | Less than 5% of goods are truely recycled | 23:22:23 |
| enigma9o7 | but, the reason is, they're recycleable | 23:22:27 |
| enigma9o7 | the old ones arent cuz of the mixed paper+wax, and apperantly it isnt even actually wax but some kinda plastic | 23:22:42 |
| srr24x7 | Even if some companies pay a lot money for statistics that show numbers like "760%" or "80%" | 23:22:50 |
| srr24x7 | * Even if some companies pay a lot money for statistics that show numbers like "60%" or "80%" | 23:22:54 |
| srr24x7 | Those are pretty much all fake and beautified | 23:23:09 |
