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17 Dec 2023
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiDoes anyone here really use SimpleX? I found that someone on I2P really use SimpleX.11:37:51
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuihttp://2b9t.i2p/ even uses SimpleX for group chat.11:38:57
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiHow good is it compared to Matrix?11:39:13
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrI use it. Its more like a signal alternative than a matrix one12:11:52
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrwe have a few monero groups going12:12:22
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiBut it doesn't require a phone number. :)12:12:30
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=1-4&smp=smp%3A%2F%2Fhpq7_4gGJiilmz5Rf-CswuU5kZGkm_zOIooSw6yALRg%3D%40smp5.simplex.im%2FlLlYMWFFLyCZD32laiqw-CMDFkgt5Ec_%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-2%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAYx7gyV-54VPK2O5ekXWKjCREdRHouES2zHGTmq7j2Wo%253D%26srv%3Djjbyvoemxysm7qxap7m5d5m35jzv5qq6gnlv7s4rsn7tdwwmuqciwpid.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22Kl7mCHtdAhI_6sbSowCOaA%3D%3D%22%7D 12:14:15
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrInvites links are obnoxiously long thats the main monero room, if you'd like to test it out 12:14:53
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr

i recommend enabling

Settings > network > require onion

12:15:12
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiThe link is so long which makes me feel that I'm going to open a page with lots of trackers. 🤣12:15:57
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr

https://simplex.chat/

contact#/?v=1-4&

smp=smp%3A%2F%2Fhpq7_4gGJiilmz5Rf-CswuU5kZGkm_zOIooSw6yALRg

%3D%40smp5.simplex.im

%2FlLlYMWFFLyCZD32laiqw-CMDFkgt5Ec_%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-2%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAYx7gyV-54VPK2O5ekXWKjCREdRHouES2zHGTmq7j2Wo%253D%26srv

%3Djjbyvoemxysm7qxap7m5d5m35jzv5qq6gnlv7s4rsn7tdwwmuqciwpid.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22Kl7mCHtdAhI_6sbSowCOaA%3D%3D%22%7D

12:20:12
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiI feel that SimpleX is pretty centralized?12:20:15
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrIts the clearnet address, the obion address, the group id12:20:35
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr
In reply to @rdfg77:kde.org
I feel that SimpleX is pretty centralized?
You can run your own servers
12:20:43
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrAnd its actually seems to be very light 12:20:57
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr

The #1 issue with simplex centralization is the default servers.

if the server you receive msgs from goes down, you lose that connection/contact

12:21:56
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiBecause everything is stored on the client only?12:22:00
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrYeah, and your "receive" address (and server) is different for each contact 12:22:33
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrSo if you run your own server, and only use it, then you no longer have the "random" aspect12:23:04
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr BUT.. it does work with onion-only servers 12:23:22
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrSo, if you run an onion-only fdroid server, the weak link would be securing the onion keys12:23:59
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmrIm speaking prematurely, because i am personally pressuring dev to make some UX changes that address some of these issues12:25:02
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsui
In reply to @ofrnxmr:monero.social
BUT.. it does work with onion-only servers
Tor is good, but it's blocked in my country... So it seems session is easier to use.
12:40:44
@ofrnxmr:monero.socialofrnxmr

Ah.
it technically works over i2p but not officially.

working with dev to allow it

12:41:52
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsui🤣 Looks like SimpleX is also blocked in China.12:44:56
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiAh, when I tried it months ago it was already blocked.12:45:32
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiSigh, it's still too centralized to block...12:46:40
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiSo it can also works in a federated way?12:47:21
@confess:matrix.orgstolen laptop, mcdonalds wifi, tor browser changed their display name from regalia to regalia (they/them).18:46:51
@confess:matrix.orgstolen laptop, mcdonalds wifi, tor browser changed their display name from regalia (they/them) to regalia (they/them) 🏳️‍⚧️.18:54:16

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