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24 Jun 2022
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaI wasn't aware of reproducible builds existed when I submitted my apps to F-Droid (which is probably part of the reason the number is so low)22:49:11
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaProbably many people are in this situation :P22:50:05
@grote:matrix.orggroteThe sad truth is that reproducible builds cause even more issues to F-Droid publishing than there's already.22:50:15
@grote:matrix.orggroteApart from getting an app to build at all, it needs to be reproducible as well and in the past this broke frequently either due to fdroidserver changes or upstream android changes.22:51:42
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaSounds painful22:51:57
@grote:matrix.orggroteYep, but like Hans I like to still dream of a future where there"s lots of independent app builders and fdroid publishes apps that enough (trusted) people verified to be reproducible. Then you could update the index several times a day :)22:53:56
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaUnrelated but for those who have Mailcow setup already: they're currently having some server issues so that's why you're getting errors. Not really affecting us yet anyway because it's still not live22:58:32
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101
In reply to @SylvieLorxu:matrix.org
So 23 total
I think it's also worthwhile to suggest the upstream use our docker image so they may not need to turn of r8 or anything that ppl usually use
23:44:51
25 Jun 2022
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsui
In reply to @_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.org
linsui: flexboru ended in an odd way, wow, open source crack lol
They can say that 5 months ago...
04:49:43
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] Eh, you linsui went in too excited, wanted to merge a cool app (I guess lol) but the "pay features unlocked" part is tricky. 05:19:16
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]But they are right on this needing a fork or just plain move to Archive now.05:21:05
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiYes, I'm going to archive it.05:21:32
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101I don't think pay to unlock is against any spirits of open source or free software, as long as they don't embed a proprietary library 06:09:12
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspI think pay to unlock is against the spirit of free software and if I would care enough for the app I would fork it and patch that out06:11:52
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] I think the spirit still lives when you fork. I don't think it helps to host it if upstream doesn't want us. And if they don't want it's "fake foss" eg. Signal 06:31:02
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101
In reply to @_oftc_jochensp:matrix.org
I think pay to unlock is against the spirit of free software and if I would care enough for the app I would fork it and patch that out
At least it's encouraged by GNU
08:37:31
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101And if you think it's not acceptable on fdroid, well we have many to take down 08:37:50
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101First is Fairemail08:38:05
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]Netguard too, etc09:04:29
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] proletarius101, jochensp: do read https://forum.f-droid.org/t/paid-features-in-opensource-apps/4099 ;) 10:06:01
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101
In reply to @_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.org
proletarius101, jochensp: do read https://forum.f-droid.org/t/paid-features-in-opensource-apps/4099 ;)
It's pretty interesting to see the vast majority of comments are based on personal preferences rather than deducting from community consensus or free software principles
12:57:23
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101Thus the discussion doesn't have common grounds. You have your preferences I have mine 12:58:58
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)12:59:14
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] linsui: flexbooru pls put back the block if it was build, removing it doesn't do what you think it does, the APK still lives on... 19:38:32
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]Mark as archive AND disable the version.19:38:32
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]Then, after next index update....remove the recipe.19:38:33
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] If that's an autoupdated entry...ignore my comment :) 19:39:45
26 Jun 2022
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsui
In reply to @_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.org
linsui: flexbooru pls put back the block if it was build, removing it doesn't do what you think it does, the APK still lives on...
It failed. No worry. :)
02:17:59
27 Jun 2022
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp hey, I tried setting up a repo for/with mobilsicher today and we where not able to add app icons. I made sure they are in the index and downloadable from the repo but they did not show up. But even for the f-droid repo icons don't show up for me, for example Etar where I added the icon to fastlane recently and made sure it works does not work right now with client 1.15.2. Anyone 16:47:13
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspknows why? 16:47:15

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