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28 Sep 2021
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]Nope14:56:20
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiThat's sad. It's one of the best file sharing tool on Android.☹️14:57:47
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] Sharik not good enough? linsui 15:03:44
@rdfg77:kde.orglinsuiI'm using Sharik since I heard that the Trebleshot will discontinue. But it seems I have to input the address. Trebleshot can find the peer automatic.15:11:42
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylvia Izzy Hacktoberfest registrations are now open 15:12:27
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzy Sylvia: ah, thanks! Now I just need to find that link again… Ah, thanks to browser history #D 15:19:51
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzyRegistered :D15:23:24
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzy "Hacktoberfest 2021 has not yet begun, hold off on those pull requests so they can count!" – eh, so shall we all stop until they're ready? #D 15:49:45
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)wire currently uses google static maps (proxied via the backend, for more privacy) to provide a preview when a location is shared (the sharing itself will switch to using osm). does that require the NonFreeNet AF until they can switch it to an osm-static-maps instance?16:14:27
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaHmmm... but the code that proxies that is libre?16:15:04
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)yes, the backend is AGPLv316:15:38
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaWell, given that we consider Nitter libre, even though it receives data from the non-libre platform YouTube... I think not tagging it with NonFreeNet is most consistent with other apps?16:16:28
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaKind of a tough one16:16:33
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaSorry, Nitter talks to Twitter not YouTube16:17:55
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaPoint still stands16:17:58
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)well, according to the last meeting, the f-droid forum app needs the AF since user contributions are CC-BY-ND.16:19:21
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)*CC-Y-NC-SA-3.0-unported16:20:30
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)*CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0-unported (typing is hard)16:20:48
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaYou mean Non-Free Assets, right? Because the code of F-Droid's forum is libre?16:21:08
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆) NonFreeNet, since apparently it's not enough for the code to be FOSS, the content also needs to be (though mastodon etc. doesn't have this issue, since you could use an instance where all content is libre as well). 16:23:29
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaI disagree with that interpretation16:24:35
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaAnyway, I don't think NonFreeNet is really necessary for Wire in the case you described16:25:17
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)so do I fwiw.16:25:18
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)I did add NonFreeAssets to wire b/c of "No license is granted to the Wire trademark and its associated logos, all of which will continue to be owned exclusively by Wire Swiss GmbH. Any use of the Wire trademark and/or its associated logos is expressly prohibited without the express prior written consent of Wire Swiss GmbH."16:27:05
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆)(we can obviously use the logo for f-droid since they want us to, but it's not free imo)16:27:37
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaI guess that makes sense16:27:46
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdeIn all of this I feel like somehow it just becomes more confusing for the user and then this starts to lose some meaning.16:28:27
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdeLike NewPipe access youtube.com which is proprietary - NonFreeNet - easy to understand16:28:41
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] 幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆): so the app on F-Droid will be named Eriw? Or LibreWire? 16:28:51
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]I feel a LibreSignal vibe here...16:28:52

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