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14 Jan 2022
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspsure15:52:08
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcfor me, I also feel the pressure of wanting to get things done and off my plate so that I don't burnout and drop them.15:53:27
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcon that note, based on the CCT-RCE grant and new TrackingTheTrackers, we'll be looking for a new Android-ish/Python-ish dev in case anyone know of anyone. 15:55:03
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcWe'll be writing up a job description soon15:55:12
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthis will be related to fdroid as well as other things15:55:31
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcalways privacy related15:55:37
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcand 100% free software15:58:49
@cdesai:matrix.orgcde
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of course, if its fun work, rather than work work, that's also important, and I don't want to block that from happening. I'd just hate to see other things get blocked by waiting for the perfect index overhaul
To add to this, I'm only bringing up various index topics as they come to my head just to have them out there, in case it's something that could be consisted at all right now, or if there's some minor changes that could be done for making it easier in the future.
16:01:50
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc yeah great to document ideas when inspiration strikes. It has been great to see grote going through the issue trackers and finding important old posts like that, which we can now easily address 16:03:10
@grote:matrix.orggroteThe issue I see with that minimal index idea is increased client complexity, because the client can't assume that all info is there. It then needs to handle a state where most info isn't there. If we can assume everything is there, whenever we have repo data at all, this simplifies things.16:21:00
@cdesai:matrix.orgcde
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The issue I see with that minimal index idea is increased client complexity, because the client can't assume that all info is there. It then needs to handle a state where most info isn't there. If we can assume everything is there, whenever we have repo data at all, this simplifies things.
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16:27:06
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp or description: "loading.." 16:27:28
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdeactually with that way one could prototype the idea quickly with the existing index too.16:34:07
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdeJust need a list of what's essential for basic functionality, and strip everything else out.16:34:32
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspyes, I could do the server part. I guess we only need the client logic to load the minimal one first16:36:01
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzy _hc do you remember who that was? (Checking the mpressum) Ah, KUMI = (K)laus (U)we (MI)itterer. That company sits rather next to your door: Graz, Austria. But I don't remember the contact person. 17:14:55
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzyTheir website has Twitter, Telegram, Discord, BBM, Wire… Nothing I use. Ah, Threema. But no handle I remember.17:16:28
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzyNothing in my mail either.17:17:19
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaWire allows email-based accounts, so no phone number required17:33:14
@cdesai:matrix.orgcde
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yes, I could do the server part. I guess we only need the client logic to load the minimal one first

something simple like

if (firstRun && noIndex)
    minimalIndex
else
   sameAsBefore

could work

17:33:44
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspyeah ^^17:34:05
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc
In reply to @_oftc_Izzy:matrix.org
_hc do you remember who that was? (Checking the mpressum) Ah, KUMI = (K)laus (U)we (MI)itterer. That company sits rather next to your door: Graz, Austria. But I don't remember the contact person.
that's the guy. yes, I'm physically nearer to him. I'm also the blocker on so many things... If you are willing, I can make an email intro. We had a short exchange.
18:03:13
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcmore info https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/17818:03:59
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcor really anyone could take this on. we need sysadmin help18:04:40
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp] > Their website has Twitter, Telegram, Discord, BBM, Wire… Ah, Threema 18:14:18
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]Only centralized silos...fun...18:14:18
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzy I could ask them if the offer still stands. But for details, I had to refer to someone else anyhow, who introduces them to the tasks where they're needed. Would probably make more sense if that person is establishing the contact in the first place, no? 18:17:03
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcok, nicoalt set up the forum, for example...20:03:08
@_oftc_Izzy:matrix.orgIzzySo shall I contact Uwe and refer him to Nico? Or anyone with a Matrix account who could contact him directly (on that issue Uwe mentions his Matrix account can be found in his GitLab profile)?23:22:23
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdemaybe just create a group?23:43:27

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