| 14 Jan 2022 |
 jochensp | we could do a first hack to convert v1 to v2 as a separate script like I started already | 15:38:39 |
 _hc | yeah, sounds like a good starting point | 15:39:04 |
| _hc | just quick and dirty to see what it looks like | 15:39:20 |
| _hc | I think there is a good chance to get it working in a day, in a basic way | 15:39:53 |
| jochensp | and adding a minimal version for 2345 should be as well | 15:39:58 |
| _hc | and that will give us a lot of info | 15:40:01 |
| jochensp | for me the biggest question is what the client needs, like duplication the packageid wie discussed the other day | 15:40:49 |
| _hc | regarding 2345, I'd rather wait on seeing the results of the diff than do something like that. It is something that has been discussed many times over the years | 15:40:50 |
| jochensp | 2345 and diff are different dimensions to me | 15:41:18 |
| _hc | I remember looking into how Google Play handles it. At that time, they didn't. They just showed a white loading screen on first use. They have a large team that focuses on first impressions, so I figured they thought it was too hard to do. Donno the current status | 15:42:03 |
| jochensp | not sure that is a good argument ;) | 15:42:26 |
| _hc | because we're 100x more efficient than google devs? | 15:42:47 |
![@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.org](./avatar/Licaon_Kter%5Bxmpp%5D) Licaon_Kter[xmpp] | It connects to their servers on first chance, updates included apps even without Play login..e | 15:43:06 |
| jochensp | also we have different designs so something could be doable for us that is hard for them | 15:43:58 |
| jochensp | or they just never experienced the waiting time because of network | 15:44:14 |
| jochensp | and I guess Play does not download all app information at once | 15:44:40 |
| _hc | they have a large UX and QA teams that covers exactly that kind of stuff | 15:44:43 |
| jochensp | _hc: I still don't think that makes it a good argument | 15:45:11 |
| _hc | i have an exgirlfriend who was on the UX team at Google at the time | 15:45:14 |
| _hc | I know how they work, and the resources that have | 15:45:29 |
| jochensp | and F-Droid is better, still :D | 15:45:50 |
| _hc | yes of course, but they still have vastly more resources than us, so we need to be realistic and strategic with our time | 15:46:25 |
| jochensp | (I'm over time this month anyhow so whatever I do, I do for free) | 15:47:19 |
| Licaon_Kter[xmpp] | > i have an exgirlfriend who was on the UX team at Google at the time | 15:48:16 |
| Licaon_Kter[xmpp] | > I know how they work, and the resources that have | 15:48:16 |
| Licaon_Kter[xmpp] | Inside information? :)) | 15:48:17 |
| jochensp | grote: I'm happy to provide whatever index would make sense for you to test | 15:48:17 |
| _hc | In reply to @_oftc_jochensp:matrix.org
(I'm over time this month anyhow so whatever I do, I do for free) I'm not thinking about the grant money here, I'm thinking that we have limited dev time and much to do to improve F-Droid, so we need to stay focused on delivering the good in a timely manner. As much as I like perfection, I also have learned through experience that the perfect is the enemy of the good. | 15:50:48 |
| jochensp | I understand that and I feel capable of handling that | 15:51:45 |
| _hc | of course, if its fun work, rather than work work, that's also important, and I don't want to block that from happening. I'd just hate to see other things get blocked by waiting for the perfect index overhaul | 15:51:51 |
