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14 Jan 2022
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@eighthave:matrix.org_hc Izzy: a while back the guy from https://kumi.systems offers to help fdroid with sysadmin/server stuff. Do you think you could talk to him about helping? 15:26:14
@eighthave:matrix.org_hclike I guess we have to vet him somehow15:26:32
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcwe need help running things like the forum, etc.15:26:41
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc grote: jochensp about index-v2, it feels like we should start implementing what we have. Then we can get an idea of how much work the changes will be. 15:27:54
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcand I think we have something that's pretty close15:27:57
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcor if you prefer, we can call it prototyping rather than implementing15:28:13
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcbut I mean code15:28:21
@grote:matrix.orggrote
In reply to @grote:matrix.org

Once we are happy with the indev-2 draft, we should:

  • ask more people for review
  • go through the list of indev-v2 tickets and see if they are all addressed
  • leaving a message in those tickets with a link to the draft
  • check that we covered all fields from the old index
What happened to 👆️?
15:29:18
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcalso15:29:55
@grote:matrix.orggroteTo me it feels a tad early for code.15:29:55
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcwe need to have an idea of how much work it'll be to implement the changes we want15:30:15
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcsome ideas won't be worth it, if they are a lot of work to implement15:30:28
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthe FFDW work is a lot more than just an index format15:31:02
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcand fdroid has many burning needs15:31:09
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthat will not be solved by the index-v215:31:18
@grote:matrix.orggroteThen why waste time implementing something that just started to take shape?15:31:47
@eighthave:matrix.org_hccall it prototyping then15:32:12
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspalso we discussed some more ideas in the meeting yesterday15:32:20
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcgrand design specs usually fail, especially when dealing with legacy code15:32:32
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensphttps://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidclient/-/issues/234515:32:46
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcsounds nice, but we need to work iteratively to survive15:34:12
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthere is always index-v3.15:34:21
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcwe'll be better off to make sure index-v3 is easy to do than worry about making the perfect spec now15:34:45
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspfrom the server side I would be fine either way, guess it depends on how much work it would be in the client15:35:22
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcour current spec already means big changes in fdroidserver15:35:52
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspwhich part do you see as problematic?15:36:30
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcchanging the internal representating15:36:43
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthat will touch basically everything15:36:52
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcwhich is like alarm bells when dealing with legacy code without the authors15:37:16

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