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20 May 2021
@debeule:gnugen.chartectrexNow that the magisk dev has been hired, I hope he will not go to the dark side and help them break magisk hide :P10:16:46
@freenode_GNUtoo:matrix.org@freenode_GNUtoo:matrix.orgAs I understand, Magisk is the only maintained solution to enable users to get root without adb, right?10:21:38
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@eighthave:matrix.orgHans-Christoph Steiner cdesai: jochensp izzy linsui proletarius101 FestplattenSchnitzel uniq Sylvia Mathijs LjL and anyone else interested: weekly meeting day, with text here in this room, and voice/video in https://meet.keanu.im/fdroid 11:32:05
@eighthave:matrix.orgHans-Christoph SteinerI mentioned the freenode drama, some of us proposed that switching to OFTC makes the most sense since Debian uses OFTC and indeed kind of runs OFTC11:39:42
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp I'm traveling, so only text. +1 for oftc 11:40:47
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai having used OFTC from the IRC side since the last many years, the Matrix integration isn't as reliable as it is here with freenode 11:43:42
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp cdesai: I haven't seen complains about the Matrix bridge, do you have something specific in mind? 11:46:17
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai jochensp: there used to be messages being dropped so irc wouldn't see messages, but it's been a while since that 11:46:50
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai the other issue is people having the Guest* usernames at times making it confusing, but that's maybe more with the setup. 11:47:13
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspHa, I see both of that on freenode as well11:47:36
@eighthave:matrix.orgHans-Christoph Steineryou shuld be able to see the account name of Guest* accounts11:50:15
@eighthave:matrix.orgHans-Christoph Steinerto see the "real" account11:50:22
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai _hc: usually I just guess by opening PMs or what they're saying :p 11:50:44
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101Actually matrix bridges have a Bridgebot-style setting, which could be set as pretending to be a real matrix-native account11:51:19
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@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101Any difference of OFTC or librechat?11:52:29
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101I guess IRC doesn't preserve chat history by default?11:54:08
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101not sure how freenode deal with it11:54:22
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@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai proletarius101: yep, no history 11:55:05
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.org@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgF-Droid has some bot that keeps history, needs migrating too I guess11:55:17
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai Sylvia: does it? the topic seems to suggest it's just logged via matrix 11:55:46
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.org@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgOh interesting yeah11:56:21
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101

When a Matrix room is bridged to IRC, all users (by default) on the Matrix side will be provided with a connection to the room and will show up in the user list on IRC. The IRC users will also appear as "ghosts" on the Matrix side, bearing a Matrix ID like @irc_alice:matrix.org. This allows a "native" feeling so that users do not have to worry about the complexities of the protocols.

However as with all bridges, the native feeling can catch IRC or Matrix users unaware when things do not bridge well (such as replies/threading or reactions).

11:56:49
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101https://matrix-org.github.io/matrix-appservice-irc/latest/irc_operators.html11:56:54
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesaiFYI for matrix spaces you have to opt into the beta from settings on element11:58:36
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101
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FYI for matrix spaces you have to opt into the beta from settings on element
yeah
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