| 28 May 2021 |
 _hc | 幸猫: about doing sysadmining for F-Droid, are you looking for something to do every now and then? Or more something you can own as the lead on it? | 13:07:01 |
 @LjL:matrix.org | cde, Mathijs : FYI, I emailed support@matrix.org as instructed on #irc:matrix.org and other places (such as #libera-matrix on Libera) to get rid of @appservice-irc:matrix.org for the purpose of re-bridging or even just to get rid of it since rooms are unbridged anyway and it looks ugly and misleading and I'm not happy with it being Admin.
While I was there listing a number of room IDs, I also included #fdroid, which is why this might be relevant to you. I got this email in response: | 16:19:48 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | We have received a lot if Freenode related requests the past couple of days. We will work our way through them in the order they came in.
In order to speed up the processing of your case, please make sure we have a way of verifying you as the rightful owner of the room(s) you are asking about. For example by putting the sender email on the official website or GitHub page for your project.
Please respond to this email to complete a 3-way handshake for email sender verification, and include any links or resources we can use to verify you as described above. | 16:19:56 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | I can't do that for most of my rooms as they aren't "projects", and I can't do that for F-Droid unless someone else done, but even then I'm not super-happy with my email being shown on websites.
Anyway, I also don't get why they are requiring this, when the bot is just there as a result of a bug: the rooms are unbridged, and it just didn't remove itself automatically as it is kind of supposed to. Why does it need any authorization to do what it's supposed to? | 16:21:31 |
 Mathijs | I already have a support ticket for the fdroid rooms | 16:21:39 |
| Mathijs | But we'll see which one will turn up first | 16:22:06 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | Mathijs: not sure if you are in #irc:matrix.org but I was told that if I have my email linked to my Matrix account on matrix.org (which I do), I can tell that to them in my reply email, and it should be sufficient. So I will do that | 16:34:22 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | At the same time I really feel this is needlessy bureucratic: the expected and desired behavior is for the appservice bot to go away when unlinking a room. If it didn't do that, that's a (recognized) bug. So it should just be removed, there is no need to verify anyone... | 16:34:57 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | And I've voiced that there, but whatever, last time I voiced things TravisR treathened me with bans, which they aren't doing now presumably because they aren't looking. These past few days I've been obviously been liking the freenode administration much less, but also the Libera adminsitration less, and disappointingly, the Matrix administration less. I hope for y'all that OFTC is nice. | 16:35:56 |
| Mathijs | listen: I regularly talk with the bridge dev | 16:39:49 |
| Mathijs | this whole freenode mess completely blindsided them | 16:39:59 |
| Mathijs | and the amount of work is just way too much for the current bridging team (they are hiring to expand, by the way) | 16:40:31 |
| Mathijs | so they're working through it as fast as they can | 16:41:13 |
| Mathijs | but honestly it feels really unfair to blame the matrix.org team for the mess created by the drama with freenode | 16:41:37 |
| Mathijs | I would assume that they'll try to figure out a way to get the bridge bot to leave unlinked rooms, by the way | 16:45:11 |
| Mathijs | (though I have no inside knowledge about attempts in that regard whatsoever) | 16:47:05 |
| Mathijs | in the mean time, we can tombstone this room and bridge the newly created room | 16:48:06 |
| Mathijs | we'll still need permission to bridge the f-droid room to oftc, though | 16:49:07 |
| Mathijs | because of the 100 user limit | 16:49:13 |
| Mathijs | I suppose I can do that later tonight | 16:51:28 |
|  @jochensp:matrix.org joined the room. | 16:52:17 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | Mathijs: well, I'm finding at least one mod in the #irc:matrix.org consistently rude and threatening in unwarranted ways | 17:00:29 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | Calling me "panicked" is something my psychiatrist can do, now him | 17:00:45 |
| @LjL:matrix.org | * Calling me "panicked" is something my psychiatrist can do, not him | 17:01:16 |
| Mathijs | right, we'll upgrade this room soon™️ | 17:04:55 |
| Mathijs | LjL: do you have OP for fdroid-dev in oftc? | 17:10:33 |
 cdesai | Mathijs: I do | 17:14:59 |
| Mathijs | ah | 17:15:03 |
| cdesai | but he should too | 17:15:04 |
| Mathijs | can you help out irc-side? | 17:15:11 |
