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8 Nov 2018
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcadding disk is easy, but it is a support request, so it can take days til its done11:49:09
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijseh, I'd script a warning message if the disk starts running low11:49:39
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee AIUI you can't use half of your disk space if you want to be able to vacuum your database. 11:49:49
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsthat should give us plenty of time11:49:54
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoMathijs: Do you think we can make a machine which has public logs and an IRC bridge beside Synapse? The latter one is most important of course, the formers would be cool, too, to depend even less on matrix.org.11:50:30
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffeeSo how does 100G disk sound?11:50:37
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs100GB wouls sound enough11:51:02
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcsounds like too much to me for this11:51:15
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee Nico: I'd be willing to set up a botbot if someone can provide the necessary infrastructure. 11:51:16
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthat's a lot11:51:21
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu
Mathijs: Do you think we can make a machine which has public logs and an IRC bridge beside Synapse? The latter one is most important of course, the formers would be cool, too, to depend even less on matrix.org.
public logs: sure, we'd have to set up whatever matrix is running for the static view of the room, or even write a bot
11:51:33
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthat'll be the second biggest VM after the mirror11:51:42
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsbut the irc bridge is a bit trickier11:51:44
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsin the sense that we'd need freenode to allow the bridge, I think11:51:59
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee
In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
that'll be the second biggest VM after the mirror
We could probably go with 50G if we're more careful.
11:52:51
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc100GB of storage that also needs to be backed up11:52:59
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs50 sounds doable11:53:02
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcsounds like11:53:05
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffeeBut yeah, synapse is a disk hog.11:53:10
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsyeah, synapse likes it disk usage11:53:20
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico

in the sense that we'd need freenode to allow the bridge, I think

OK, so that's to be done later.

11:53:38
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsif the DB is on spinning rust, we'll also probably notice a bit of slowness11:53:52
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu

in the sense that we'd need freenode to allow the bridge, I think

OK, so that's to be done later.

I'm not 100% that we'd technically need them to allow the bridge, but I do know that matrix.org has an agreement with freenode, and if nothing else it's the polite thing to do
11:54:33
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico Couldn't we reduce the needed disk space if we regularly clear the cache of loaded media? Of course it should automatically reload the media if it's requested. 11:54:33
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsyeah, that could work11:55:40
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsthough in my case the database is larger than my media cache11:55:53
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu
Couldn't we reduce the needed disk space if we regularly clear the cache of loaded media? Of course it should automatically reload the media if it's requested.
Not that much. Most of the storage goes to Matrix "state".
11:56:16
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffeeOur best bet is to just keep the number of rooms low. We can start with just our two F-Droid rooms.11:57:05
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffeeAnd anyone who gets an account on it has to pledge to not join any other rooms than those two.11:57:31
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old)
In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
we should meet up 😀
Definitely!
11:57:38

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