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8 Nov 2018
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @Coffee:matrix.org
And anyone who gets an account on it has to pledge to not join any other rooms than those two.
I do solemnly swear 😁
11:59:43
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthis is just to self-host the two fdroid matrix rooms? or something else also?11:59:41
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsI'd assume you'd also want to use it for internal conversations12:00:30
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee
In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
I'd assume you'd also want to use it for internal conversations
Yeah, that'd be fine.
12:01:41
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsthen again: if you add everything synapse on my server together that's still about 26 GB12:04:09
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsand I'm in most big matrix.org rooms12:04:22
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee
In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
this is just to self-host the two fdroid matrix rooms? or something else also?
I guess if we can add disk at will (with a few days of delay) we could go 30 or even lower.
12:05:51
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcif we need to rapidly allocate 20gigs of disk for just the matrix server, then it sounds like it'll rapidly outgrow the eclips.is hosting12:06:59
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcI think we have a total of like < 500gigs there, with 300GB being for the mirror12:07:34
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee The extra space is mostly insurance against a bad roll of luck, and so we'd have enough for at a year or two including some expansion into different rooms. 12:08:10
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsit took my server 1 year and 7 months to grow to 26 GB12:08:23
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcseems like it should set a 1 year cache policy, then chat logs can be dumped out plain text to disk after that12:09:06
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcin which case many years would be <1GB12:09:18
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffeeThe thing with matrix is that it is an append-only log. A bit like a blockchain without the POW.12:10:11
@Coffee:matrix.orgCoffee You can dump old messages, but you will forever be accumulating "state". 12:10:30
@eighthave:matrix.org_hchopefully the matrix logs aren't growing faster than ssd tech12:10:38
@freenode_apol:matrix.orgapol joined the room.12:12:05
@eighthave:matrix.org_hclet me know when you want me to make the VM12:12:57
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico

let me know when you want me to make the VM

I guess we're ready to do it, right @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com?

12:19:07
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico Another thing is that @bubuiic:matrix.org wrote in the forum that the assembly call opened for 35C3. I'll also go, do we want to do a FOSS mobile assembly there? How would that work? Or who would register that? 12:20:27
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcI've never been, so can't say much12:20:58
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcbut I'll be there is my talk is accepted12:21:08
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu

let me know when you want me to make the VM

I guess we're ready to do it, right @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com?

I'll have some time over the weekend to set things up, sure
12:39:56
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico Nice. So _hc, you can set up the machine with my ssh key preconfigured and I'll handle the rest with Mathijs. Thank you, btw! 12:42:09
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsI assume the vm will run debian?12:42:36
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoYes.12:44:42
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico And my goal is to have a documentation like this: https://f-droid.org/docs/Maintaining_the_Forum/ 12:45:43
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old) Nico: I'm not too sure how that works 12:49:24
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old) Nico: I'm not too sure how that works 12:50:02
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old)The other options would be to join with another assembly. Like fsfe of something12:50:18

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