| 27 May 2021 |
 _hc | yeah | 17:00:35 |
 izzy | OK, Toot sent. Made that "#CalyxOS" as that hash-tag exists. | 17:00:43 |
| _hc | then you could do #CalyxOS instead | 17:00:45 |
| izzy | Right #D | 17:00:55 |
| izzy | Done that. | 17:01:17 |
|  @freenode_djBRDF:matrix.org left the room. | 17:06:47 |
| @freenode_djBRDF:matrix.org joined the room. | 17:08:23 |
| izzy | _hc cdesai FestplattenSchnitzel jochensp linsui SylvieLorxu as discussed today, I've just opened the MR: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/9069 – please add your thumbs/approvals. I wasn't sure if I should "ping" the entire team from there – but if you find that warranted, please go ahead. | 17:50:47 |
 @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | cdesai, Mathijs, ping. I'm being answered and seeing things in #matrix:matrix.org and especially #irc:matrix.org that worry very much, but in terms of attitude and risks to our rooms/channels. | 19:01:52 |
 cdesai | LjL: yes, I'm on #Irc:matrix.org as you may have noticed | 19:02:16 |
 cdesai | let me check perms here | 19:03:00 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | cdesai, no, I missed that message, okay, so you know and are following, good | 19:03:19 |
| cdesai | "Upgrade the room" is admin here. | 19:03:19 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | I am rather upset | 19:03:24 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | He's blaming my "3 day panic" | 19:03:29 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | when just the other day he told me it was all under Matrix control and not to worry | 19:03:38 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | now he says it's "full of attack surfaces" and strcat cannot say some things that happened to them publicly because they're security issues | 19:03:57 |
 Mathijs | I'm honestly a little confused what you're worried about | 19:03:59 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | is there a network with admins that are sane? | 19:04:02 |
| cdesai | LjL: I'd give them a break tbh, I'm sure we're not the only ones bugging them about all of this. | 19:04:08 |
| cdesai | Let's just figure out a solution. | 19:04:13 |
| Mathijs | In reply to @freenode_LjL:matrix.org
is there a network with admins that are sane? hi, I'm the admin of the f-droid matrix server :P | 19:04:33 |
| Mathijs | though I suppose my sanity hasn't recently been scrutinized | 19:04:46 |
| Mathijs | can you explain what the problem is? | 19:05:28 |
| cdesai | Mathijs: is #fdroid-official:matrix.org on our server too? | 19:07:09 |
| Mathijs | yes | 19:07:25 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | Mathijs, i was reading https://coshacks.blogspot.com/2021/05/matrix-tips-they-dont-tell-you.html the section where it says "Getting rid of freenode bridge" and I realized that based on the description there, it seemed that you only needed to be a Mod, not an Admin, to place a tombstone in a room, effectively taking over that room. Now since freenode has taken over channels, doesn't that mean that they could become ops (which reflect into Mods on | 19:08:39 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | Matrix) and by that virtue, also take over any plumbed Matrix room, like #fdroid? My understanding is that someone in #matrix:matrix.org essentially answered "yes, because the bridge give tombstone power level to Mods"; i asked more specifically in #irc:matrix.org, and initially I was told I just couldn't get an answer because I was panicking, and later, I'm reeeeally not sure what the actual answer is. Just try to figure it out, because I can't. They | 19:08:40 |
| @freenode_LjL:matrix.org | started bickering among themselves about what's possible and what isn't. | 19:08:40 |
| Mathijs | though matrix rooms aren't really on any particular server | 19:08:45 |
