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25 Jul 2019
@bubu:bubu1.euBubu
In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
could be a lot worse
try to read the twitter replies to the announcement
19:01:15
@bubu:bubu1.euBubuhttps://twitter.com/fdroidorg/status/115142935053889945619:01:33
@bubu:bubu1.euBubube warned. a lof of stupidity ahead19:01:51
@bubu:bubu1.euBubuhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2046673019:06:06
@bubu:bubu1.euBubuthis was rather civil19:06:13
@bubu:bubu1.euBubuah, you've already been there :)19:06:32
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcyup 🤣19:08:47
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc😐️19:08:55
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthe good news is that a lot of people care about F-Droid19:15:38
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc🎉19:15:44
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJanne_hc: the bad news is the kind of people that do care. I believe a major factor may be the bans of 4chan clients from Google Play a few years ago, which led to a lot of /pol/ users using F-Droid afterwards19:18:18
@eighthave:matrix.org_hceven though I'm not christian at all, I've always been inspired by the idea of "love the sinner, hate the sin"19:20:10
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcbecause that actually solves the problem19:20:20
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJannetrue, but as long as the sinner sins, you can’t accept him19:21:05
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcif you look at people who troll and attack online, they are often victims themselves, and if they feel loved, then see the error of their ways19:21:23
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJanneyou might want to help him find his way, but you can’t accept him into your community until the saulus has become paulus19:21:29
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcwrong, love the sinner, means always love the sinner19:21:38
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJanneyes, but you can’t force others to deal with them19:21:55
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcI guess this is more american christianity, not like Catholicism19:22:01
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJannepart of a community means making sure the users in the community feel safe from harassment and worse19:22:14
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcof course19:22:30
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJanneif you, as moderator, choose to work with such people, you can do that, of course, but you can’t force the rest of the community to accept or deal with such people19:22:43
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcI don't disagree, you're talking about something different than me19:23:04
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJannewell, I’m talking about people in #fdroid literally saying that I shouldn’t exist19:23:23
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJanneI’m not exactly a fan of that19:23:28
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcif Stalin or Hitler submitted a merge request and were perfectly polite, I would accept it19:24:09
@eighthave:matrix.org_hceven though lots of people in my family were directly affected by them19:24:26
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJanneI’ve read the blogposts and arguments from alexgleason, who at the same time told me he’d love to work with me, while also saying that trans people should not exist19:24:28
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJannepersonally, I’m not a fan of that19:24:40
@freenode_justJanne:matrix.orgjustJannetechnology is never just technology, the ideals and goals of the creators also end up in the technology that gets built19:25:06

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