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22 Sep 2021
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdebut we can check the web server?14:44:57
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspI think Hans has access14:45:21
@cdesai:matrix.orgcde _hc: ^ any ideas? tl;dr from the 2 caching and 1 web server, apache 2.4.25 fast, apache 2.4.38 slow. 14:45:25
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp..and staging.f-droid.org is .3814:46:12
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspnow .25 was slow as well for me14:47:47
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoa cde: apologies 2hr engineering zoom, $work stuff 14:48:00
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoawe're talking about kubernetes, would much rather talk about f-droid :)14:49:53
@cdesai:matrix.orgcdefdroid-k8s wen? :)14:50:25
@obfusk:matrix.org幸猫 (𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗒/𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗆) I see 148.251.140.42 -> Apache/2.4.25 (0.1-5s) & 149.202.95.241 -> Apache/2.4.38 (5-20s) here (using for x in $(seq 10); do time curl -svI https://f-droid.org 2>&1 | grep -E 'Connected|Apache'; done) and it seems to switch between the two exactly every time in my limited testing. 15:35:00
@_oftc_Licaon_Kter[xmpp]:matrix.orgLicaon_Kter[xmpp]Caching servers....right?15:38:40
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoahey off my zoom, I can test anything. I can even spin up some VMs in any datacenter we want to use to test, I just happen to have some servers alive in Dallas and Toronto. what can I do that would help out here?15:40:49
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp tepozoa: sadly not much, the issue is known and out of our control (besides there is ongoing work on moving stuff to a CDN) 15:41:33
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcsomeone needs to take that over, not worth much troubleshooting the existing setup. There are two prototypes for doing it15:42:32
@cdesai:matrix.orgcde _hc: would you mind doing a quick apache version check on the server you do have access to? 15:42:53
@eighthave:matrix.org_hci have access to none of the front end caches15:43:15
@cdesai:matrix.orgcde right, but the web server?
We're getting the version from the header Via
15:43:53
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoa
In reply to @cdesai:matrix.org
two different apache versions reported in both
First: Apache 2.4.25
Second: Apache 2.4.38
these are so similar, I would suspect that it's a configuration issue (where I would start debugging first)
15:44:24
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoaI've upgraded a metric f-ton of apache in my career, rarely does a version upgrade result in negative network performance of this measurable amount15:45:16
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoa * I've upgraded a metric f-ton of apache in my career, rarely does a version upgrade result in negative network performance of this measurable amount15:45:24
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp tepozoa: we don't even know the configuration of the caching servers 15:45:54
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoa nod :( 15:46:15
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoais f-droid using a hosted service, that why?15:46:46
@_oftc_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspnop, just that the F-Droid founder is doing it15:47:22
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcand its something we're looking for a new maintainer for15:51:18
@tepozoa:matrix.orgtepozoaI know there's been talk of cloudflare and it's problems for some people (captchas on tor, etc.) - has anyone f-droid official approached KeyCDN? https://www.keycdn.com/open-source-cdn15:59:04
@deimos:kde.orgdeimoshttps://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/22916:22:17
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101
In reply to @tepozoa:matrix.org
I know there's been talk of cloudflare and it's problems for some people (captchas on tor, etc.) - has anyone f-droid official approached KeyCDN? https://www.keycdn.com/open-source-cdn
Key CDN retains IP address logs for an non-promised period of time
16:38:25
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101But actually i haven't directly contacted them17:12:10
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101you may have a try. the open source account needs you to contact them directly anyway. maybe you can also ask their log retention policy17:13:03
@proletarius101:matrix.orgproletarius101 tepozoa: 17:13:13

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