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10 Nov 2018
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsfirst things first, I'll try to get synapse working16:50:38
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old)yes, sure!16:51:01
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsbut it's fun to think about all the possibilities16:51:18
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old) Coffee: twif tagged 17:00:58
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico Mathijs: Thanks for the list of all third-parties. 17:01:54
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico
In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
don't worry, I'm mostly kidding
We're now at the place where we can decide things without having too much work. So if you think with docker it's all easier, we can go that way.
17:02:40
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoOther option I'm thinking about is using Ansible to script all that stuff, even if we just use it on one machine.17:03:02
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoBecause once the forum machine died and we made some inreversible changes requiring us to set up the machine from scratch. With the forum software that's easy, but with the Matrix setup Ansible would make this situation a lot easier.17:04:29
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico Mathijs: Do you already have a plan for backups? 17:04:43
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu
We're now at the place where we can decide things without having too much work. So if you think with docker it's all easier, we can go that way.
sure, we could even decide to keep synapse, coturn and postgresql installed on bare metal
17:07:19
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsand just install docker to add new stuff as we go along17:07:31
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu
Mathijs: Do you already have a plan for backups?
other than dumping the database regularly and backing up all relevant files every once in a while, not really
17:07:56
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs I'm mostly not sure where to push the backup to 17:08:25
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoI've updated the roadmap in the admin issue to include TURN and dimension: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/issues/94#note_11575465617:08:41
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsgreat17:08:57
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico
In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
I'm mostly not sure where to push the backup to
With the forum, we basically do the same. Every time I upgrade the forum, I download the latest backup.
17:09:32
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoThat's not the best way, but it's at least something.17:09:45
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsI'd be inclined to script stopping synapse, dumping the database and backing up and starting synapse back up17:10:48
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijswhere should the backup go to?17:10:57
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoPushing backups from the forum machine to the matrix one and vice versa doesn't help a lot when they're both in the same data center, I guess.17:11:16
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs(actually, that reminds me that I should backup my own synapse db)17:11:21
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico
In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
I'd be inclined to script stopping synapse, dumping the database and backing up and starting synapse back up
Sounds good.
17:11:36
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu
Pushing backups from the forum machine to the matrix one and vice versa doesn't help a lot when they're both in the same data center, I guess.
probably
17:11:38
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNico
In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
where should the backup go to?
For now, to some directory on that machine. Documented in the documentation.
17:12:18
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijsI personally use duplicati and upload to stack17:12:20
* @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs creates /backups folder17:12:38
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs(or something)17:12:43
@nico:dorfbrunnen.euNicoAzure Stack?17:13:01
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.com
probably
actually, it is a little better than just backing up locally. If one VM falls over for some reason we'd still have the other for backups
17:13:24
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
In reply to @nico:dorfbrunnen.eu
Azure Stack?
no, transip stack which gives me 1 TB of free storage
17:14:03

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