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#fdroid-dev F-Droid development discussion only | Use #fdroid:f-droid.org for general, app- and repo-related matters | Meeting every Thursday at 11:30 UTC | This channel is publicly logged at https://matrix.f-droid.org/alias/%23fdroid-dev:f-droid.org18 Servers

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14 Nov 2018
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt Mathijs coffee Coffee: So I created an account for me on f-droid.org, joined this room, gave me admin privileges through my other account, added #fdroid-dev:f-droid.org as an address to this room, set it as the main address for this room, enabled that this room is published in f-droid.org's room directory and finally changed the topic to include links to f-droid.org. Was this all correct? If so, I would continue with #fdroid:matrix.org. 19:04:47
@bubuiic:matrix.orgMarcus (old) Nico Alt: sounds all good! 19:11:42
@mathijs:matrix.vgorcum.comMathijs
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Mathijs coffee Coffee: So I created an account for me on f-droid.org, joined this room, gave me admin privileges through my other account, added #fdroid-dev:f-droid.org as an address to this room, set it as the main address for this room, enabled that this room is published in f-droid.org's room directory and finally changed the topic to include links to f-droid.org. Was this all correct? If so, I would continue with #fdroid:matrix.org.
All good
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@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid) Nico Alt: Thanks, looking good! I wanted to do it this afternoon but some personal stuff came up. 19:25:49
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt Thank you two for the confirmation. I just did the same with #fdroid:f-droid.org. 19:25:52
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt coffee: No problem! 19:25:58
@nico:f-droid.orgNico AltI think I'll leave the rooms with my personal account now, but we should leave at least one admin with an account on another server.19:26:52
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@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid)I think I'll stick to my main account and use the f-droid one for "official" stuff for now.19:33:04
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@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt I also created +fdroid:f-droid.org and am curious how we should use that. +fdroid:matrix.org is open for everyone and contains also the unoffical F-Droid room, but I think +fdroid:f-droid.org could be useful to give information about "officials", i.e. I so far only listed the two official rooms and would only add members confirmed to be contributors, similar to the forum. That way, people know at least a bit with who they are talking to.
What do you think about this approach?
19:46:28
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt

The description of it is so far:

This community contains a list of official F-Droid.org and F-Droid related matrix rooms. Members of this community are confirmed to be contributors.

19:46:45
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt Another question: In our discussion we talked about that only F-Droid related stuff should be done on f-droid.org. Someone said that room about riot-android is included in this. Following that, are #telegram-foss:matrix.org and #guardianproject:matrix.org are also F-Droid related and should be added to +fdroid:f-droid.org and attached :f-droid.org aliases? 19:48:58
@nico:f-droid.orgNico AltI think so, only curious about your opinions.19:49:13
@nico:f-droid.orgNico AltWe should come up with some policy on that. I.e., is the Librem 5 room also F-Droid related? F-Droid being about FLOSS on Android and Librem being about FLOSS on mobile?19:50:16
@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid)
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I also created +fdroid:f-droid.org and am curious how we should use that. +fdroid:matrix.org is open for everyone and contains also the unoffical F-Droid room, but I think +fdroid:f-droid.org could be useful to give information about "officials", i.e. I so far only listed the two official rooms and would only add members confirmed to be contributors, similar to the forum. That way, people know at least a bit with who they are talking to.
What do you think about this approach?
Sounds good to me! 👍
19:55:49
@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid)
In reply to @nico:f-droid.org
Another question: In our discussion we talked about that only F-Droid related stuff should be done on f-droid.org. Someone said that room about riot-android is included in this. Following that, are #telegram-foss:matrix.org and #guardianproject:matrix.org are also F-Droid related and should be added to +fdroid:f-droid.org and attached :f-droid.org aliases?
Well, there are two different things here. First we have our official f-droid rooms, and on the other hand we have "other" rooms that we might want to join using official f-droid accounts. The latter should not be part of the community.
19:57:55
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt

Coffee (F-Droid):

and on the other hand we have "other" rooms that we might want to join using official f-droid accounts

That's right. So we should come up with another community?

19:58:51
@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid)I'm not sure why it needs a community. Oh, are you thinking of storing all the "allowed" rooms in a community so everybody knows what rooms are allowed?20:00:16
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt You mean as "allowed to be hosted on F-Droid.org"? That's a thing, but I thought about it like a list of everything related to F-Droid in the matrix universe, open for everybody to join. So more like the current community on matrix.org and less like +fdroid:f-droid.org. 20:03:00
@nico:f-droid.orgNico AltTo keep a list of everything we know, for newcomers to quickly start.20:03:13
@nico:f-droid.orgNico AltI'm not sure if it's the right word, but I would call it "a list of endorsed rooms". Not officialy by F-Droid.org, but interesting to join.20:04:04
@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid)I am tending towards thinking the matrix.org group is fine for that. It's a shame you can't alias communities.20:06:32
@nico:f-droid.orgNico Alt Coffee (F-Droid): You're right, it would be an alias of that group, but since it isn't possible, I thought creating a new one on f-droid.org is a good idea. 20:08:12
@coffee:f-droid.orgCoffee (F-Droid)What would be the added value of that, over having an name ending in :f-droid.org? And does that outweigh the confusion of having two different groups for the same purpose?20:10:21

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