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14 Apr 2021
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc jochensp: ^ 21:31:02
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcalso, did you see fdroidserver!904 21:31:11
@freenode_[gibot]:matrix.org[gibot][server] !904: `fdroid build --test` keeps unsigned APKs in tmp/… - https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidserver/merge_requests/90421:31:12
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp _hc: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidserver/-/merge_requests/905 21:38:48
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspI saw the MR, had no time to look into it yet21:39:09
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochenspand thanks for the dev status!21:39:14
@freenode_jochensp:matrix.orgjochensp(oups, should have pulled first :D )21:40:59
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesaisomebody pointed out https://f-droid.org/packages/io.nandandesai.privacybreacher/23:19:30
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai One of the things it does, "Get a list of all the apps installed on your phone.", is now guarded behind a permission for API 30 apps 23:19:49
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesaihttps://developer.android.com/training/package-visibility23:20:23
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesai Google Play won't let just any app have that permission, https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/10158779?hl=en 23:21:22
@freenode_cdesai:matrix.orgcdesaiI think we should at least try and flag apps / maybe give things like these their own anti feature, or something else.23:22:10
15 Apr 2021
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@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaI guess the main question is: does this permission show up in the install dialog screen07:04:29
@SylvieLorxu:matrix.orgSylviaIf Android doesn't warn the users we should maybe yeah07:04:59
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc cdesai: f-droid.org is a very different context than Google Play. There is human review of every new app, and all the source code is available. So when APIs which have legitimate uses, we don't need to automatically flag them. 07:26:58
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcthe Google Play approach is about having as many apps as possible with as little work as possible, so they try to cheaply work against malware.07:27:50
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcand therefore are willing sacrifice a lot of useful apps in the process07:28:11
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcif an app in f-droid.org uses that API for tracking people, then it would be marked with the Tracking Anti-Feature07:28:59
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcAlso, Google is a corporation, so they are legally required to maximize profit.07:29:55
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc I could see issuebot flagging that permission so reviewers pay attention to it 07:30:39
@eighthave:matrix.org_hc * cdesai: f-droid.org is a very different context than Google Play. There is human review of every new app, and all the source code is available. So when APIs which have legitimate uses, we don't need to automatically flag them with Anti-Features 07:32:45
@festplattenschnitzel:matrix.orgFestplattenSchnitzelHow about doing today's meeting at the BBB instance https://senfcall.de/en/?10:35:40
@stencil:matrix.orgPassiing
In reply to @eighthave:matrix.org
stencil: no we only want human translation. So the Bangla contributor is doing that.
You committed it though?
11:07:20
@eighthave:matrix.org_hchow can i tell?11:14:53
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcI speak 2 or 3 languages, and can navigate another 5 or so related languages. That leaves out most of the langauges11:15:28
@stencil:matrix.orgPassiingGetting link wait11:15:32
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcsupported by fdroioclient11:15:36
@eighthave:matrix.org_hcplus I only read the latin alphabet11:15:55

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